{"id":5415,"date":"2026-04-01T05:28:48","date_gmt":"2026-04-01T05:28:48","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.taveaucreativeleadership.com\/?p=5415"},"modified":"2026-04-01T14:59:00","modified_gmt":"2026-04-01T14:59:00","slug":"part-2-faith-roots-john-wesley-did-he-believe-in-once-saved-always-saved","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.taveaucreativeleadership.com\/?p=5415","title":{"rendered":"PART 2 FAITH ROOTS: JOHN WESLEY “DID HE BELIEVE IN ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED?”"},"content":{"rendered":"

This was first posted Nov 18 2025 <\/p>\n

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PART 2 FAITH ROOTS JOHN WESLEY<\/span><\/h1>\n

**Did John Wesley Believe \u201cOnce Saved Always Saved\u201d?<\/span><\/h1>\n

A Bible and Historical Examination**<\/span><\/p>\n

(C) 2025 Taveau D\u2019Arcy \u2014 All Rights Reserved<\/em><\/h3>\n

INTRODUCTION<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

The doctrine of \u201conce saved always saved\u201d<\/strong> claims that a person, once born again, can never lose salvation \u2014 no matter what they later believe, do, deny, or choose.<\/span><\/p>\n

This article answers:<\/span><\/p>\n

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    Did John Wesley believe in \u201conce saved always saved\u201d?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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    Does the Bible (KJV) teach eternal security without conditions?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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    What does Scripture say about falling away and being blotted out?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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    What would Wesley say to Christians about the warnings?<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

    SECTION 1 \u2014 DID JOHN WESLEY BELIEVE IN \u201cONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED\u201d?<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

    Short Answer:<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

    **\u00a0 No \u2014 Wesley completely rejected \u201conce saved always saved.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

    John Wesley taught:<\/span><\/p>\n

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    \u201cA true believer may make shipwreck of faith.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

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    \u201cIt is possible for a believer to fall from grace.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

    He insisted that salvation is:<\/span><\/p>\n

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      by grace<\/strong>,<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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      through faith<\/strong>,<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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      kept by continuing faith<\/strong>,<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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      and faith can be overthrown.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

      This matches the plain meaning of KJV Scriptures.<\/span><\/p>\n

      SECTION 2 \u2014 WHAT KJV SCRIPTURE SAYS ABOUT FALLING AWAY<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

      John Wesley rejected eternal security because the Bible itself rejects it.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

      Here are the passages he relied on:<\/span><\/p>\n

      1. Believers can \u201cdepart from the living God\u201d (Hebrews 3:12)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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      \u201cTake heed, BRETHREN, lest there be in ANY of you
      an evil heart of unbelief, in departing from the living God.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

      Written to believers<\/strong> (\u201cbrethren\u201d), warning they<\/strong> can \u201cdepart.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

      2. Believers must \u201ccontinue in the faith\u201d to remain saved (Colossians 1:22\u201323)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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      \u201cTo present you holy\u2026<\/span>
      IF ye continue in the faith grounded and settled,
      and be not moved away from the hope of the gospel.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

      Salvation is conditioned on continuing<\/strong>, not just beginning.<\/span><\/p>\n

      3. Even Paul feared becoming a \u201ccastaway\u201d (1 Corinthians 9:27)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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      \u201cLest that by any means\u2026 I myself should be a castaway<\/strong>.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

      Why fear being cast away\u2026 if being cast away is impossible?<\/span><\/p>\n

      4. Believers can \u201cfall from grace\u201d (Galatians 5:4)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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      \u201cYe are fallen from grace<\/strong>.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

      This cannot refer to unbelievers; unbelievers were never IN grace.<\/span><\/p>\n

      5. Believers can \u201cdraw back unto perdition\u201d (Hebrews 10:38\u201339)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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      \u201cIf any man draw back,<\/span>
      my soul shall have no pleasure in him.<\/span>
      But we are not of them who draw back unto perdition<\/strong>\u2026\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

      Perdition = destruction, ruin, eternal loss.<\/span><\/p>\n

      You cannot \u201cdraw back\u201d from somewhere you never were.<\/span><\/p>\n

      6. The branch \u201cIN ME\u201d can be cut off (John 15:1\u20136)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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      \u201cEvery branch in me<\/strong> that beareth not fruit he taketh away\u2026<\/span>
      If a man abide not in me<\/strong>, he is cast forth as a branch\u2026<\/span>
      and they are burned.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

      Jesus describes:<\/span><\/p>\n

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        A branch in Him<\/strong> (saved)<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        That does not continue<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        Is cut off<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        And cast into the fire<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

        Clear. Unavoidable.<\/span><\/p>\n

        7. Names CAN be blotted out of the Book of Life (Revelation 3:5)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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        \u201cHe that overcometh\u2026<\/span>
        I will not blot out his name out of the book of life<\/strong>.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

        The warning is the proof.<\/span><\/p>\n

        If it were impossible<\/strong>, Jesus would not promise to \u201cNOT\u201d blot out a name.<\/span><\/p>\n

        SECTION 3 \u2014 WHAT GETS YOUR NAME BLOTTED OUT? (KJV)<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

        Wesley and Scripture agree that certain actions, choices, and attitudes can lead to losing salvation.<\/span><\/p>\n

        Here are the primary biblical reasons:<\/span><\/p>\n

        1. Persistent, Willful Sin (Hebrews 10:26\u201327)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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        \u201cFor IF we sin willfully<\/strong>\u2026<\/span>
        there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins<\/strong>,<\/span>
        but a certain fearful looking for of judgment\u2026\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

        2. Departing from God through unbelief (Hebrews 3:12)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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        \u201cAn evil heart of unbelief<\/strong> in departing from the living God.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

        Not accidental doubts \u2014<\/span>
        willful rejection of faith.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

        3. Drawing back (Hebrews 10:38)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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        \u201cIf any man draw back<\/strong>, my soul shall have no pleasure in him.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

        4. Denying Christ (Matthew 10:33)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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        \u201cWhosoever shall deny<\/strong> me before men,<\/span>
        him will I also deny\u2026\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

        5. Refusing to abide in Christ (John 15:6)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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        \u201cIf a man abide not<\/strong> in me, he is cast forth\u2026\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

        6. Returning to filth\/sin without repentance (2 Peter 2:20\u201322)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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        \u201cThe latter end is worse with them than the beginning.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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        SECTION 4 \u2014 WHAT WOULD JOHN WESLEY SAY TO CHRISTIANS ABOUT THE WARNING PASSAGES?<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

        Wesley would say exactly what the Bible says:<\/span><\/p>\n

        A. Salvation is a gift \u2014 but must be kept by living faith.<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

        He preached \u201ccontinued believing,\u201d not one-time praying.<\/span><\/p>\n

        B. God does not force anyone to stay saved.<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

        Believers can walk away.<\/span><\/p>\n

        C. The Book of Life warnings are real.<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

        Not symbolic, not empty threats.<\/span><\/p>\n

        D. Holiness matters.<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

        Not perfection \u2014<\/span>
        but no willful rebellion<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n

        E. Salvation is secure ONLY in abiding in Christ.<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

        Not in a past moment,<\/span>
        but in an ongoing relationship<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n

        SECTION 5 \u2014 FINAL VERDICT: DID WESLEY PREACH BIBLE TRUTH OR ERROR?<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

        After examining both:<\/span><\/p>\n

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          What Wesley taught<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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          What Scripture teaches<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

          The answer is clear:<\/span><\/p>\n

          Teaching Point:<\/span> <\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

          JOHN WESLEY PREACHED THE TRUE GOSPEL \u2014 NOT ONCE SAVED ALWAYS SAVED.<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

          JOHN WESLEY’S GOOD NEWS MINISTRY MESSAGE WAS ” NOT AN ACCURSED” GOSPEL.<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

          His doctrine aligns with:<\/span><\/p>\n

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            Jesus<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            Paul<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            Hebrews<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            Acts<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            The Apostolic warnings<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            The Book of Life passages<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

            The ones preaching \u201cpray once, live how you want, heaven guaranteed\u201d<\/strong><\/span>
            are the ones preaching an accursed gospel<\/strong>, not Wesley.<\/span><\/p>\n

            TO SUPPORT: