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NOTE :This was first posted June 7, 2025 Ministry AI and I www.ministryaiand.com<\/strong><\/p>\n

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BOANERGE MINISTRY:<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

AUTHENTIC,\u00a0 IMAGINED OR PICK ME PROPHETS, MINISTRY OFFICES\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

“It was the Last Days “the perilous times” and the “falling away” but not just that, it was also a “driving them away” by leader word curse accusation\/the inability to trust.(2 Timothy 3:1-8\/I Timothy 6:5)..also the holy fear of the Lord, Godly remnant, who knows\u00a0 their Bible, and who are submitted to “God’s whole counsel” regarding the apostolic command\u00a0 to “flee from” the abusive following.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

“And James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder:” Mark 3:17<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of host<\/em>. ” Isaiah 6:5<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

“He must increase, but I must decrease.” Christ John 3:10<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

(C)2025 Taveau D’Arcy All copy ,rights reserved under international copyright laws ,in conjunction with AI<\/p>\n

Taveau D\u2019Arcy \u2014 Brief Auto Bio<\/strong>
“How She Is Allowed to Say This”<\/em><\/p>\n

I was called by the Lord in 1976 to study the Body of Christ and its leadership doctrines across many movements and regions. For nearly five decades (celebrating 50 years in 2026), I have been sent prophetically \u2014 as an Enoch-type<\/em> \u2014 to observe, enjoy, and serve a wide range of Bible-believing Christian fellowships<\/em>. These have included early charismatic renewal, micro to mega-churches, multi-campus celebrity churches, and many independent ministries (across all races, rural, suburban, and urban). My journey has also encompassed apostolic-prophetic groups and racial reconciliation efforts.<\/p>\n

I was called to public ministry as a charismatic in 1987 and stepped out of formal charismatic circles in 2013 (DFW). However, I remain PRO-charismatic<\/strong> \u2014 serving these movements with reformational insights and fresh ideas.<\/p>\n

My calling has always been led by the gentle Holy Spirit and grounded in God\u2019s powerful Word \u2014 not for fame, but out of a deep desire to preserve sound doctrine, foster servant leadership, and uphold biblical respect. I speak from firsthand experience<\/strong> and extensive observation, carrying a lifelong commission to expose error compassionately, encourage healthy leadership, and support the freedom and dignity of every human being \u2014 believer or not. We are PRO ALL Humans<\/strong> (any race, tribe, or belief set), and this is the official heart of my Sent Messenger work through Human\u2019s Christian Apostolic Training Ministry<\/em>.<\/p>\n

Hence, I do know what I am talking about<\/strong> \u2014 not by secondhand reports, but by walking among these groups and prayerfully observing them for many years.<\/p>\n

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Overview:<\/h3>\n

Boanerges = Sons of Thunder = Men marked by boldness, passion, and power, but who must learn to channel that power in humility and godly wisdom.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Dr T says<\/span><\/strong>
\nI asked Chat GPT about any use of the BOA (out of curious, for I know these are “not in the Bible” however, many times when one regards them, they often can apply “prophetically.” Yet I will submit these and leave it up to the reader to choose. (Means; read the article, then come back to see if these 3 have any metaphoric, even prophetis application + warning)<\/span><\/p>\n

Chat GPT Re “BOA” …spit these out<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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BOA (Born-Again)<\/strong> \u2014<\/span>
A person who has experienced the new birth Jesus described in John 3:3: \u201cExcept a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.\u201d This means a spiritual transformation where the old self dies, and a new life in Christ begins, empowered by the Holy Spirit to walk in righteousness and truth.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

Feather Boa<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

A feather boa<\/strong> is a long, decorative scarf made from feathers, often used in fashion, costume, or theatrical settings. It\u2019s soft, fluffy, and worn around the neck or shoulders to add flair and style. It symbolizes elegance, playfulness, or sometimes flamboyance.<\/span><\/p>\n

Boa Constrictor<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

A boa constrictor<\/strong> is a large, non-venomous snake native to Central and South America. It kills its prey by constriction<\/strong> \u2014 wrapping its muscular body tightly around the victim to suffocate it. Symbolically, the boa constrictor can represent power, control, and sometimes danger or oppression<\/strong> in literature or spiritual teaching<\/span><\/p>\n

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NOW THE ARTICLE <\/span><\/div>\n
Note the<\/span> deep contrast of the above “BOA” and the what follows in Apostle Paul’s sage, proven words”<\/span><\/div>\n

1 Corinthians 4:9-13<\/strong><\/h3>\n

“For I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world, and to angels, and to men.
We are fools for Christ\u2019s sake, but ye are wise in Christ; we are weak, but ye are strong; ye are honourable, but we are despised.
Even unto this present hour we both hunger, and thirst, and are naked, and are buffeted, and have no certain dwelling place;
And labour, working with our own hands: being reviled, we bless; being persecuted, we suffer it:
Being defamed, we intreat: we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.”<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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“For do I now persuade men, or God? or do I seek to please men? for if I yet pleased me<\/span>n, I should not be the servant of Christ.” <\/em><\/span>Galatians 1:10 (Paul did not sign up to be popular):<\/strong><\/p>\n

DEFINE A BOARNERGE<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Boanerges is a very rich biblical term<\/strong>, and exploring its full context, history, and deeper meaning opens up a lot. Here\u2019s a layered look:<\/span>
\n\u00a01. Context in Scripture<\/span><\/p>\n

The term Boanerges appears only once in the Bible:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Mark 3:17 (KJV):<\/span>
\n\u201cAnd James the son of Zebedee, and John the brother of James; and he surnamed them Boanerges, which is, The sons of thunder:\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Jesus gave this nickname to the two brothers, James and John, among His twelve disciples.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a02. Historical and Linguistic Background<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

The word Boanerges comes fr<\/strong>om an Aramaic expression transliterated into Greek in Mark’s Gospel.<\/span><\/p>\n

In Aramaic, it likely combined bene (sons of) + regesh or r\u2018g\u2018sh (noise, tumult, thunder, or commotion).<\/span><\/p>\n

Transliteration issues<\/strong>: the Greek spelling \u0392\u03bf\u03b1\u03bd\u03b5\u03c1\u03b3\u03ad\u03c2 is a little garbled because Greek didn\u2019t perfectly capture the Aramaic sounds.<\/span><\/p>\n

The intended meaning is “Sons of Thunder” \u2014 idiomatically:<\/span>
\n\u00a0Sons of strong emotion, powerful voice, fiery zeal, impulsive action.<\/span><\/p>\n

3. Why Did Jesus Use It?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

James and John were known for their passionate temperamen<\/strong>t:<\/span><\/p>\n

Luke 9:54 \u2014 They wanted to call down fire from heaven on a Samaritan village that rejected Jesus.<\/span>
\nJesus rebuked them<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n

Mark 10:35\u201345 \u2014 They boldly asked Jesus to grant them high positions in His kingdom.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Thus, the name reflected their:<\/span><\/p>\n

Zeal,<\/span><\/p>\n

Impulsiveness,<\/span><\/p>\n

Loud and forceful spirit.<\/span><\/p>\n

Ego centric, Immature, Childlike and\u00a0 naive self seeking**<\/span><\/p>\n

**Dr T names this “modern wannabeism” “modern word “pick me”<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a04. Deeper Symbolic Meaning; <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

TD assesses: Although they started off rough but ended up heroic<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

a. Human Nature Being Transformed<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

These “Sons of Thunder” were loud and impulsive,<\/strong> but over time under Jesus\u2019 discipleship:<\/span><\/p>\n

James became the first apostolic martyr (Acts 12:2), courageous to the end.<\/span><\/p>\n

John became the Apostle of Love, writing the most tender gospel and epistles on love and truth.<\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a0Boanerges thus represents the journey from natural zeal \u2192 spiritual maturity.<\/span><\/p>\n

b. The Nature of Ministry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

In early ministry, zeal alone is not enough \u2014 zeal must be balanced with wisdom, grace, and love.<\/span><\/p>\n

Thunder can:<\/span><\/p>\n

Awaken,<\/span><\/p>\n

Alarm,<\/span><\/p>\n

Bring attention,<\/span><\/p>\n

But it must lead to rain \u2014 nourishment, life.<\/span><\/p>\n

In Good Form<\/strong> most of these\u00a0 current “Sons of Thunder” c<\/strong>an also mean those who shake people out of complacency, but must learn to do so with Christlike spirit.<\/strong><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

\u00a05. Broader Theological Reflection<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

Thunder is often associated with the voice of God (Psalm 29, Revelation 10:3-4).<\/span><\/p>\n

The apostles were meant to be God\u2019s voice on Earth, proclaiming the gospel with boldness and clarity \u2014 but not with carnal anger.<\/span><\/em><\/strong><\/p>\n

The nickname Boanerges reminds us that:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

Calling and potential come with character refinement.<\/span><\/p>\n

Even the strongest personalities must be brought under the control of the Spirit.<\/span><\/p>\n

Layer Meaning<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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  • Literal Sons of Thunder \u2014 loud, passionate, forceful.<\/span><\/li>\n
  • Personal James & John\u2019s fiery temperament.<\/span><\/li>\n
  • Spiritual A call to mature zeal \u2014 passion guided by love and truth.<\/span><\/li>\n
  • Prophetic A metaphor for the transforming power of Jesus on human nature.<\/span><\/li>\n
  • Ministry The balance of bold proclamation with Christlike grace.<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

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    BOARNERGES IN HISTORY<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n

    How this term has been used in Christian history \/ revival movements.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    How it is interpreted in various denominations or prophetic circles today<\/span><\/p>\n

    1\ufe0f Boanerges in Christian History \/ Revival Movements<\/span><\/strong>
    \na. Preaching Style<\/span><\/p>\n

    In revival eras, especially during Great Awakenings and Pentecostal\/Charismatic movement<\/strong>s, “Boanerges” became a nickname for fiery preachers.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Example: George Whitefield<\/strong> (18th century) \u2014 known for booming, thunderous voice, called by some “Boanerges.”<\/span><\/p>\n

    Similarly, Charles Finney and John Wesle<\/strong>y sometimes described such preachers who convicted hearts with powerful oratory as having a “Boanerges spirit.”<\/span><\/p>\n

    b. Balance of Boldness & Grace<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Historically, revivalists often struggled with the same tension as James & John:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Initial zeal sometimes bred judgmentalism or harshness.<\/span><\/p>\n

    With maturity, many learned to temper thunder with tears and love.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Example quote from early Methodist circuit riders:<\/span><\/p>\n

    \u201cWe must thunder against sin \u2014 but rain down Christ\u2019s love upon the penitent.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

    c. Use in Prophetic Ministry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    In Pentecostal \/ Charismatic \/ Prophetic circles, “Boanerges” sometimes is used symbolically to describe:<\/span><\/p>\n

    Prophets or ministers with a calling to wake the Church, often in times of complacency.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Those with a gift of bold proclamation, unafraid to tackle controversial or uncomfortable trut<\/strong>h.<\/span><\/p>\n

    But prophetic mentors often warn<\/strong>:<\/span><\/p>\n

    \u201cIf you are called as Boanerges \u2014 beware of bitterness or carnal anger creeping in.\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    The voice of Christlike thunder must carry His Spirit<\/strong> \u2014 not personal offense or self-righteousness.<\/span><\/p>\n

    2\ufe0f Interpretation in Various Denominations & Prophetic Circles<\/span><\/strong>
    \na. Conservative \/ Reformed \/ Evangelical<\/span><\/p>\n

    ++ See “Boanerges” as a warning about temperament:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Zeal must be refined.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Example of how Jesus transforms natural tendencies.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Not often embraced as a positive calling per se \u2014 more used to illustrate personal growth and grace over time.<\/span><\/p>\n

    b. Pentecostal \/ Charismatic<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    More positive embrace of the “Boanerges” image:<\/span><\/p>\n

    Sees some prophets \/ preachers as having a \u201cthundering call\u201d to awaken the church or the world.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Applied to those who call out compromise, sin, or injustice \u2014 but the mature ones learn to balance this with love.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Cautions:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Unsubmitted Boanerges spirit can become critical, harsh, even domineering.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Must remain under accountability and Holy Spirit refinement.<\/span><\/p>\n

    c. Prophetic Circles (modern trends)<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Some modern prophets wear \u201cBoanerges\u201d as a badge \u2014 often using the term to mean:<\/span><\/p>\n

    Uncompromising prophetic voice.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Not politically correct.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Prepared to \u201cshake the heavens\u201d with bold decrees.<\/span><\/p>\n

    HOWEVER<\/strong> \u2014 mature prophetic leaders often remind:<\/span><\/p>\n

    A true prophetic voice must also carry the heart of the Fathe<\/strong><\/em>r \u2014 thunder without grace and tears is not Christlike.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Remember the rebuke of Jesus when James & John wanted to call fire down on the Samaritans<\/strong> (Luke 9:54-56).<\/span><\/p>\n

    Final Deepest Meaning<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Boanerges is a symbol of calling AND caution:<\/span><\/p>\n

    Calling<\/strong> \u2192 Some are called to awaken, confront, and speak with thunder.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Caution<\/strong> \u2192 But without the cross and the Spirit, the mentality and humility and cause\u00a0 of Bible wholeness…that big thunder can destroy rather than build.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    The ultimate goal:<\/strong> for the thunder of God\u2019s voice to be heard through a vessel of love, humility, and grace.<\/span><\/p>\n

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    \u00a0Practical Guidelines for today\u2019s “Boanerges” anointed ministers<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Know your call: awaken, not destroy<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Your job is to shake, awaken, proclaim \u2014 not to crush or shame.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Thunder is mean<\/strong>t to get attention so the still, small voice of Christ can speak.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Personal Self Government:<\/strong>\u00a0 Stay under Holy Spirit control<\/span><\/p>\n

    Zeal must always be submitted: (RESPECT, HUMILITY OTHER CENTERED the heart of\u00a0 Christ, not just the person talent and gifts)<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Pray regularly: \u201cLord, purify my zeal. Let it carry Your heart.\u201d\u00a0<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Be willing to let God refine your motives \u2014 again and again.<\/span><\/p>\n

    \u00a0Speak truth WITH grace<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    No bitterness, no offense, no personal vendetta.<\/span><\/p>\n

    If you can’t weep over the people you rebuke \u2014 pause and pray first.<\/span><\/p>\n

    \u00a0Remember the end goal is life, not noise<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Thunder leads to rain \u2014 to nurture, not just to shake.<\/span><\/p>\n

    \u00a0Honor accountability<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Stay under mature leaders or elders who can lovingly correct you.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Invite feedback: \u201cAm I sounding harsh? Have I crossed into pride?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

    2\ufe0f Warnings and Common Pitfalls<\/span><\/strong>
    \nCarnal Anger (flesh)<\/span><\/p>\n

    “Righteous anger” must be Holy-Spirit inspired, not mixed with personal offense.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Anger will pollute your prophetic voice if not surrendered daily.<\/span><\/p>\n

    \u00a0Pride in being \u201cbold\u201d”unique” “gifted” ‘called” “favored”<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Some “Boanerges” voices fall into:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Spiritual superiority<\/strong> \u2014 martyr …”I alone speak the truth.”<\/span><\/p>\n

    Isolation<\/strong> \u2014 rejecting correction. (a law unto one’s self)<\/span><\/p>\n

    Humility is key: Boldness without humility turns into abusive ministry.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    A Critical spirit<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    Constantly calling out error can develop a habit of criticism.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Regularly ask the Lord: \u201cAm I building or tearing down?<\/strong><\/em>\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

    \u00a0Misapplying the calling<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

    Not every situation requires thunder.<\/span><\/p>\n

    Learn when to be:<\/span><\/p>\n

    A lion\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

    A lamb\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

    A friend\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

    A teacher\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

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    3\ufe0f Prayer \/ Declaration for walking the Boanerges path<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    A Major verse for us ALL (myself included)<\/span><\/em><\/p>\n

    Isaiah 6:5 (KJV):<\/strong><\/span>
    Then said I, Woe is me! for I am undone; because I am a man of unclean lips, and I dwell in the midst of a people of unclean lips: for mine eyes have seen the King, the Lord of hosts.<\/em><\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

    \u00a0Isaiah 6:5<\/strong> connects directly to the themes we’ve been addressing \u2014 Boanerges spirit, Paul\u2019s humility, warning about spiritual celebrity and \u201cwannabeism\u201d:<\/strong><\/p>\n

    1. Isaiah\u2019s Woe vs. \u201cWannabe Boanerges\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
      \n
    • \n

      In Isaiah 6:5<\/strong>, Isaiah \u2014 a called prophet \u2014 has a real encounter<\/em> with the living, holy God.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

    • \n

      His first reaction is not \u201cLook at my gift\u201d<\/em> or \u201cWatch my bold performance.\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

    • \n

      His reaction is deep humility: \u201cWoe is me! I am undone.\u201d<\/strong> He recognizes his unclean lips<\/strong> \u2014 his unworthiness.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

    • \n

      This is the opposite of today\u2019s wannabe \u201csons of thunder\u201d culture<\/strong> (celebrity, self-platforming, demanding followers, performance-driven ministries).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

    • \n

      Many today act like they are already perfect mouthpieces for God \u2014 while Isaiah, upon seeing the Lord, realized how unfit he was without God\u2019s mercy.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

      2\ufe0f Paul and Isaiah \u2014 True Ministers Know They Are Weak<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
        \n
      • \n

        Paul called himself the offscouring of the world<\/strong> and said he did not preach himself.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

      • \n

        Like Isaiah, Paul had seen the glory of Christ<\/strong> (on the road to Damascus) \u2014 and that encounter undid<\/em> his pride as a former religious superstar (Philippians 3).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

      • \n

        Both Isaiah and Paul exemplify this principle: the closer you get to the real presence of God, the less you promote yourself.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

        3. Application to Today<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
          \n
        • \n

          Modern spiritual \u201ccelebrity culture\u201d<\/strong> often skips the \u201cwoe is me\u201d part.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

        • \n

          Many want the fire, thunder, and public platform<\/strong> without first being broken before the holiness of God.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

        • \n

          But a true Boanerges spirit must be like Isaiah: bold only after deep humility<\/strong>, bold only after cleansing and calling<\/strong> (Isaiah 6:6-8).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

          Also, we may pray this aloud:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          \u201cFather, I thank You for the fire You have placed in me.<\/span>
          \nI offer You my voice \u2014 let it sound with Your truth, not my ego.<\/span>
          \nLet Your love shape every word I speak.<\/span><\/p>\n

          Purify my zeal. Cleanse my motives.<\/span>
          \nMay I never thunder out of offense, but out of Your holy purpose.<\/span><\/p>\n

          Keep me under wise accountability.<\/span>
          \nTeach me when to roar and when to weep.<\/span>
          \nLet my voice be as the voice of Christ: full of grace and truth.<\/span><\/p>\n

          I renounce bitterness, pride, and any critical spirit.<\/span>
          \nI embrace the path of humility, courage, and love.<\/span><\/p>\n

          In Jesus\u2019 name \u2014 Amen.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          \u00a0Scripture List for Boanerges-type callings<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          These verses can guide, warn, and shape those with a “thundering” call:<\/span>
          \nCalling to Boldness & Proclamation<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          Jeremiah 1:9-10<\/span>
          \n\u201cThen the Lord put forth his hand, and touched my mouth. And the Lord said unto me, Behold, I have put my words in thy mouth.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          Isaiah 58:1<\/span>
          \n\u201cCry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet, and shew my people their transgression.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          Acts 4:29-31<\/span>
          \n\u201cAnd now, Lord… grant unto thy servants, that with all boldness they may speak thy word…\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          2 Timothy 4:2<\/span>
          \n\u201cPreach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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          REMINDER:\u00a0<\/span> <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          Balance strength, one’s call… with Humility gentle Grace & His Genuine Office Respect and\u00a0 Love<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          John 1:14<\/span>
          \n\u201cAnd the Word was made flesh… full of grace and truth.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          James 1:20<\/span>
          \n\u201cFor the wrath of man worketh not the righteousness of God.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          Galatians 6:1<\/span>
          \n\u201cBrethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness…\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          2 Timothy 2:24-25<\/span>
          \n\u201cAnd the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient…\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          Warnings Against Carnal Zeal<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

          Luke 9:54-56<\/span>
          \nJesus rebukes James and John for wanting to call down fire: \u201cYe know not what manner of spirit ye are of.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          Proverbs 15:1<\/span>
          \n\u201cA soft answer turneth away wrath: but grievous words stir up anger.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

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          \nTaveau said regarding a subculture of Boarnerge, TV Media produced mostly<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          JUNIOR WANNABE BOARNERGE, THE PICK ME<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

          Wannabe: I liken the spirit of “wannabeism”<\/strong> in much of the celebrity media Christian to (pride in one’s mega talent spiritual prowess, form) I liken it to ” hangers on” who will pay\u00a0 nearly any\u00a0 price to to “well favored and chosen” to be “elevated.” (called to be up to be noticed, get”famous”)<\/span><\/p>\n

          Pick Me:<\/strong>\u00a0Also, there is a modern day term online,<\/strong> mostly in a group of friend..yet it can also mean “in Christian ministry” what is called a\u00a0 “Pick me”<\/strong> It’s usually a person who tends to do things which cause them to get noticed or “picked” out from among their circle of friends.\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

          My Christian Ministry Goal is be Seen as A Solomon**:<\/strong> due to the Christian media age, also the teaching, a lot of younger, new, even older true persons have a vision of them being “world wide famous” as wealthy, (like a Solomon). It’s materialistic and cunning, opportunists and ugly, mean, and rude, Also biased againt “types’ based on looks, age, race, gender, thin and well monied, I names thas “false fruit” and it must corrected from the TOP down to the BOTTOM<\/p>\n

          **(Mother Teresa was also another form of Christian ministry, swarm, less formal)<\/p>\n

          MAIN POINT: Many Ministers Today Mistakenly Idolize Solomon:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          They see Christian success as wealth, platforms, invites, followers.<\/span><\/p>\n

          They misunderstand \u2014 Solomon ended in tragic apostasy and idolatry! (1 Kings 11)<\/span><\/p>\n

          He had wisdom and wealth, but his heart drifted from simple love of God.<\/span><\/p>\n

          MAXIMUM POINT
          \nFor\u00a0 all of this involves the character, the role modeling of First Church ministry as well ahd ETERNAL SALVATION MAIN MESSAGE (not being well off, famous, gifted) <\/strong><\/span>Christian Doctrine o<\/strong>f salvation, moving in gifts, not “attaining” (which is Demas temporal shortsighted and blind to humanity who is status conscious or a “gifted’ famous as “they), It reproduce envy ,rivalry, keeping up with the ministry Joneses (FOMO) also\u00a0 gossip, and white witchcraft turf guarding<\/span><\/p>\n

          I liken these to the ‘Isaiah 5:20 “woe” (they call good evil, evil good” in the Holy spirit, prophetic moves)<\/strong>\u00a0and ‘accomplished blind, indifferent leading the ministry same. SEE Psalm 115:4-8 to find out WHAT IT THE ROOT of all this . .<\/span><\/p>\n

          Here is Psalm 115:4-8 (KJV):<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

          4<\/strong> Their idols are silver and gold, the work of men’s hands.<\/em><\/span>
          5<\/strong> They have mouths, but they speak not: eyes have they, but they see not:<\/em><\/span>
          6<\/strong> They have ears, but they hear not: noses have they, but they smell not:<\/em><\/span>
          7<\/strong> They have hands, but they handle not: feet have they, but they walk not: neither speak they through their throat.<\/em><\/span>
          8<\/strong> They that make them are like unto them; so is every one that trusteth in them.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

          These people, an enormous pr<\/strong>esent subculture in\u00a0 grandiose magnificent ministry “type” demands to be respected and over all of the rest of the area ministries, It has male bonds, boys club (Ministry Patriarchal moral culture) and is selective, demands “perfection” and often “club ownership.<\/span><\/p>\n

          And this USA Wide, present (2 Timothy 3:18,<\/strong> I Timothy 6:5) almost always “cutesy subculture would ignore Jesus if He showed up”NOT looking THE CHRISTIAN\u00a0 TYPE” ..meaning a a homeless appearing, down and out person (read as the Suffering Servant of Isaiah 53) No, Jesus\u00a0 would be deemed “perfect enough”\u00a0 pretty enough,\u00a0 well off enough to
          \nquality” accepted in the type of beloved…<\/span><\/p>\n

          APOSTOLIC TD NOTES; AND THIS IS WHAT IS THERE OUT RIGHT NO<\/strong>W in the deep south, southwest and more.. See TD Bio to WHY SHE GETS TO SAY THIS<\/span><\/p>\n

          POINT: It ap<\/strong>pears that many in this media age are raised by partial bits and pieces of Good Doctrine but not enough NORMAL HUMAN RELATIONSHIP “foot on the ground REALITY” and I am here for that sane, eternal purpose. A REALITY CHECK FOR ALL OF THIS.<\/span><\/p>\n

          I remember these verses about Paul, who was not famous in his day. He stated<\/span><\/p>\n

          ” I am offscouring (the dung) of the world” <\/span><\/p>\n

          “I have not attained…<\/span><\/p>\n

          A CULTURAL PICK ME SPIRIT (needy)\u00a0<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          A modern phrase (especially among young people online):<\/span><\/p>\n

          Describes a person who tries to stand out, gain approval, or secure elevation by constant self-promotion, often at the expense of authenticity or others.<\/span><\/p>\n

          In ministry, this spirit can manifest in:<\/span><\/p>\n

          Over-selling one\u2019s gifting<\/span><\/p>\n

          Desperate platform chasing<\/span><\/p>\n

          Performative holiness to gain celebrity status.<\/span><\/p>\n

          BASIC VIEW OF WANNABEISM (needy )<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          A term describing:<\/span><\/p>\n

          Those who want to be seen as great, as elite, as spiritually superior \u2014 but who have not been shaped by the Cross.<\/span><\/p>\n

          They may mimic the forms of anointed ministry \u2014 but without deep character or brokenness.<\/span><\/p>\n

          BIG POINT: <\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          Deep Teaching: Boanerges, Pick Me, Wannabeism \u2014 vs. True Christian Ministry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          The Cultural Trap: Celebrity Ministry<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          The modern “Christian influencer” world is full of:<\/span><\/p>\n

          Mega-talent worship<\/span><\/p>\n

          Style over substance<\/span><\/p>\n

          Hangers-on who will pay the price (money, loyalty, flattery) to ride the coattails of \u201ccelebrity\u201d ministries.<\/span><\/p>\n

          Pick me culture \u2014 where young preachers and prophets learn to fight for the spotlight, not the cross.<\/span><\/p>\n

           <\/p>\n

          THE LONG SUFFERING MATURE PAUL:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

          The Apostolic Warning: Paul\u2019s Model<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

          Paul taught the exact opposite of this \u201ccelebrity Boanerges\u201d spirit:<\/span>
          \na. Paul\u2019s identity:<\/span><\/p>\n

          \u201cFor I think that God hath set forth us the apostles last, as it were appointed to death: for we are made a spectacle unto the world… We are fools for Christ\u2019s sake…\u201d<\/em><\/span><\/strong>
          \n1 Cor 4:9-10<\/span><\/p>\n

          \u201cBeing defamed, we intreat: w<\/span>e are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things unto this day.\u201d<\/span><\/strong>
          \n1 Cor 4:13<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          \u00a0++ Offscouring =<\/strong> the dung \/ trash of society.<\/span>
          \n\u00a0++ True apostolic ministry is not glamor<\/strong> \u2014 it is suffering servanthood.<\/span>
          \nb. Paul\u2019s invitation:<\/span><\/p>\n

          \u201cBe ye followers of me, even as I also am of Christ.<\/strong>\u201d<\/span>
          \n1 Cor 11:1<\/span>
          \n\u00a0NOT: \u201cFollow me because I am powerful \/ gifted \/ on stage<\/strong>.\u201d<\/span>
          \n\u00a0But: \u201cFollow only to the degree I follow Jesus.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

          3\ufe0f Christ\u2019s Warning:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          \u201cHe that is greatest among you shall be your servant. And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall humble himself shall be exalted.\u201d<\/span>
          \nMatt 23:11-12<\/span><\/p>\n

          \u201cTake my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart…\u201d<\/span>
          \nMatt 11:29<\/span><\/p>\n

          Jesus models servant leadership,<\/strong> not celebrity seeking.<\/span><\/p>\n

          4\ufe0fBoanerges in Context:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          James and John wanted earthly greatness:<\/span><\/p>\n

          \u201cGrant us that we may sit, one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory.\u201d<\/span>
          \nMark 10:37<\/span><\/p>\n

          ++ They had the Pick Me Spirit in that moment!<\/span><\/p>\n

          ++ Jesus corrected them:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

          \u201cYe know not what ye ask… whoever will be great among you, shall be your minister.\u201d<\/span>
          \nMark 10:38-43<\/span><\/p>\n

          Later, after the Cross, they became true Boanerges \u2014 bold for Christ, humble in spirit.<\/span><\/p>\n

          5\ufe0f Practical Warnings:<\/span><\/strong>
          \na. Dangers of Wannabeism & Pick Me Spirit:<\/span><\/p>\n

          Promotes image over substance.<\/span><\/p>\n

          Creates political jockeying in churches and movements.<\/span><\/p>\n

          Leads to burnout, disillusionment, broken relationships.<\/span><\/p>\n

          Distorts people\u2019s view of real ministry.<\/span><\/p>\n

          b. How to test your hear<\/strong>t:<\/span><\/p>\n

          Am I seeking platform or the Cross?<\/span><\/p>\n

          Would I still serve Jesus if no one saw?<\/span><\/p>\n

          Do I seek approval of men or the smile of God?<\/span><\/p>\n

          Am I attracted to celebrity preachers \u2014 or cross-shaped leaders?<\/span><\/p>\n

          \u00a0Final Call: What true Boanerges looks like:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          True Sons of Thunder:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

          * Have been broken by the Cross<\/span>
          \n* Have purified motives<\/span>
          \n* Are willing to be \u201coffscouring\u201d if it brings glory to Jesus<\/span>
          \n* Preach boldly but with tears and love<\/span>
          \n* Carry no \u201cPick Me\u201d hunger \u2014 only \u201cPick Jesus\u201d<\/span>
          \n* Reject celebrity spirit and embrace servant humility<\/span><\/p>\n

          Final Summary: BIG SUCCESS OR BIG SERVANTHOOD?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            \n
          • False Model (Wannabeism \/ Pick Me) True Model (Christ \/ Paul)<\/span><\/li>\n
          • Seeks spotlight and platform Embraces obscurity if needed<\/span><\/li>\n
          • Performs for approval Ministers from the heart of Christ<\/span><\/li>\n
          • Boasts in talent and image Glories in weakness and the Cross<\/span><\/li>\n
          • Fights to be \u201cpicked\u201d Submits to God\u2019s timing and process<\/span><\/li>\n
          • Idolizes Solomon\u2019s success Follows the humility of Christ and Paul<\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

             <\/p>\n

            EGO AND NARCISSISM<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Taveau Asks:<\/span><\/strong>
            \nHow can human ego, narcissism fit<\/strong> into a least part of this (in Christian leadership, ministry today)<\/span><\/p>\n

            ChatGPT said:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Absolutely \u2014 a<\/strong>nd your discernment is exactly correct. Ego and narcissism often<\/strong> fuel and corrupt this entire dynamic in today\u2019s spirit-filled ministries (and elsewhere).<\/span><\/p>\n

            Let me break it down:<\/span><\/strong>
            \nHow Ego & Narcissism fit into “Boanerges Wannabeism \/ Pick Me” Culture<\/span><\/p>\n

            1\ufe0f Ego = Self-importance<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Seeks attention, credit, elevation.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Loves being seen as spiritual, prophetic, \u201cdeep.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Will quietly tolerate or even encourage cult-like admiration and inner circles (pet favorites).<\/span><\/p>\n

            2\ufe0f. Narcissism = Self-centeredness, inflated sense of worth<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Needs constant affirmation \u2014 can\u2019t rest unless others validate them.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Builds \u201cpersonality-driven\u201d movements, not Jesus-driven.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Feeds off of:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Flattery<\/span><\/p>\n

            Title-chasing<\/span><\/p>\n

            People paying to access \u201chigher anointing\u201d (seed sowing, honorariums to get close, etc.)<\/span><\/p>\n

            3\ufe0f How this affects “spirit-filled” settings:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Narcissistic leaders create:<\/span><\/p>\n

            Inner courts \u2014 a select few who get access to them.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Performance-based ministry \u2014 you\u2019re only valued if you feed the system.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Toxic loyalty \u2014 if you challenge the leader, you are shunned.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Ego-driven Boanerges voices:<\/span><\/p>\n

            Mistake personal charisma for Holy Spirit power.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Love to thunder at the crowds, but won\u2019t wash feet in secret.<\/span><\/p>\n

            MAIN POINTS: Create followers of themselves, not of Jesus. Also, one human persons own worship cult or “selective, fiercely biased\u00a0 Turf Guarding Ministry”<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            The Cult-like Flavor:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

            The movement revolves around the personality more than the Person of Jesus.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Language of “we\u2019re the remnant,” “we alone have the truth” feeds group superiority.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Public honor obsession: People are paraded and praised \u2014 while dissenters are gaslighted or labeled as rebellious, Jezebel, etc.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Control and manipulation often emerge:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Forced submission to “spiritual authority.”<\/span><\/p>\n

            People\u2019s gifts are used to build the platform \u2014 not the kingdom.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Biblical Counterexamples:<\/span>
            \nJesus:<\/span><\/h2>\n

            Had all power \u2014 but knelt to wash feet. (John 13:12-17)<\/span><\/p>\n

            Repeatedly fled from celebrity moments (John 6:15).<\/span><\/p>\n

            Warned about those who love greetings in the marketplace (Matt 23:6-7).<\/span><\/p>\n

            Paul:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

            Boasted only in his weaknesses (2 Cor 12:9-10).<\/span><\/p>\n

            Called himself the least of the apostles (1 Cor 15:9).<\/span><\/p>\n

            Refused to build a personality cult: \u201cWas Paul crucified for you?\u201d (1 Cor 1:13)<\/span><\/p>\n

            2 POINTS:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            1. Ego & narcissism are spiritual cancers to authentic ministry.<\/span>
            \n\u00a02. They fit perfectly into the toxic:<\/span><\/p>\n

            Pick Me spirit<\/span><\/p>\n

            Wannabeism<\/span><\/p>\n

            Celebrity Boanerges culture<\/span><\/p>\n

            POINT The result is often a cult-like display that:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

            Exalts persons, not Christ.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Controls followers, rather than equips and releases them.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Hinders true revival, because God resists the proud (James 4:6).<\/span><\/p>\n

            Final Word:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Paul told the Corinthians:<\/span><\/strong>
            \n“That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.” (1 Cor 2:5)<\/span><\/p>\n

            When ego and narcissism creep in, faith shifts from God to man.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Hence, we must constantly ask:<\/span><\/p>\n

            Am I exalting Jesus only?<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Am I using power and gifts to serve \u2014 or to be served?<\/span><\/p>\n

            Am I willing to decrease, so He may increase? (John 3:30)<\/span><\/p>\n

            CLOSING:\u00a0<\/span><\/p>\n

            Signs You Are in (or near) a Narcissistic \u201cSpirit-Filled\u201d Culture:<\/span>
            \nA. Signs in the Leadership:<\/span><\/p>\n

            The ministry revolves around one central person or family.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Extreme title inflation (e.g. \u201cMaster Prophet,\u201d \u201cChief Apostle,\u201d \u201cSuper Seer,\u201d etc.).<\/span><\/p>\n

            The leader rarely shows vulnerability or admits mistakes.<\/span><\/p>\n

            The leader demands honor and special treatment.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Flatterers rise, truth-tellers are shunned.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Dissenters are labeled \u201cJezebel, rebellious, dangerous.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Public \u201crestorations\u201d or corrections are performative \u2014 about image, not actual heart change.<\/span><\/p>\n

            B. Signs in the Followers:<\/span><\/p>\n

            People fear being seen as not submitted.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Extreme hero worship: \u201cNo one preaches like ___,\u201d \u201cThey alone carry this end-time anointing.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Followers talk about access more than Christ: \u201cDid you get a word from Apostle?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Emotional exhaustion \u2014 trying to stay in the leader\u2019s good graces.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Gifted people are used until they burn out or leave.<\/span><\/p>\n

            2. How to Detox & Reset Your Ministry Heart:<\/strong><\/span>
            \nA. Personal Detox:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

            Daily return to the Cross:<\/span>
            \n\u201cI die daily.\u201d (1 Cor 15:31)<\/span><\/p>\n

            Pray often: \u201cLord, empty me of self, fill me with Christ.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Spend more time with lowly people and non-flattering situations (washing feet kind of ministry).<\/span><\/p>\n

            Refuse to perform spirituality \u2014 be real.<\/span><\/p>\n

            B. Ministry Detox:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Reject celebrity culture, trading on one’s title, fame and persona \u2014 model servant leadership.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Regularly invite feedback and correction from trusted voices.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Lead with transparency: admit mistakes, share your weaknesses (2 Cor 12).<\/span><\/p>\n

            Promote Jesus first \u2014 not yourself, not your ministry brand.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Celebrate the entire body of Christ, not just your movement\/tribe.<\/span><\/p>\n

            C. Practical Recommitments:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Preach Christ crucified \u2014 not \u201chow spiritual we are.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Raise up others, not your own name.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Choose slow fruitfulness over fast fame.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Embrace being offscouring if needed (1 Cor 4).<\/span><\/p>\n

            3. Scriptures for a “Boanerges with Humility” Anointing:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Boldness with Brokenness:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Isaiah 66:2<\/span>
            \n\u201c…to this man will I look, even to him that is poor and of a contrite spirit, and trembleth at my word.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Isaiah 58:1<\/span>
            \n\u201cCry aloud, spare not, lift up thy voice like a trumpet…\u201d \u2014 but in the context of true repentance, not self-exaltation.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Micah 6:8<\/span>
            \n\u201cWhat doth the Lord require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Galatians 6:1<\/span>
            \n\u201cBrethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault… restore such an one in the spirit of meekness.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            2 Cor 4:5<\/span>
            \n\u201cFor we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus\u2019 sake.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            John 3:30<\/span>
            \n\u201cHe must increase, but I must decrease.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            1 Cor 4:9-13<\/span>
            \n\u201c…we are made as the filth of the world, and are the offscouring of all things…\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n

            Summary Picture:<\/span><\/strong>
            \nFalse Boanerges True Boanerges<\/span>
            \nThunders to be heard Thunders to awaken hearts to Christ<\/span>
            \nDraws followers to self Points all to Jesus<\/span>
            \nRelies on gifting\/personality Relies on Spirit and Word<\/span>
            \nEnjoys elite status Embraces servanthood & low places<\/span>
            \nCannot handle correction Lives in repentance and teachability<\/span><\/p>\n

            POINT:\u00a0 Narcissism, ego, pick-me, wannabeism \u2014<\/strong> they are all flesh dressed in false anointing clothes.<\/span><\/p>\n

            NOTE:\u00a0 True Boanerges must be:<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

            Thunderous in Word and Spirit<\/span><\/p>\n

            Tender in heart<\/span><\/p>\n

            Hidden behind Christ<\/span><\/p>\n

            Willing to suffer obscurity and rejection<\/span><\/p>\n

            Not needing followers \u2014 only faithfulness to the Lamb.<\/span><\/p>\n

            \u00a0TO SUPPORT: PLEASE PRAY<\/span><\/p>\n

            TO SOW A LOVE OFFERING: