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NOTE: this was first posted May 17 2025 www.ministryaiandi.com For more also Part of this “WHO WAS JESUS UNDER?” Check there<\/span><\/h3>\n

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PART 2 (SUBMISSION) JESUS & PAUL
\n<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n

FOLLOWING THE CALL FROM ABOVE<\/span><\/p>\n

WHO WAS APOSTLE PAUL “UNDER?” <\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

(Popular Ministry Inquiring Minds NEED to know!)<\/span>
\n<\/strong>Let’s get down to the real nitty gritty!<\/span><\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

(C)2025\u00a0 Taveau D\u2019Arcy, EORR Cross Body Unity International All copyrights reserved under international copyright laws, in conjunction with AI<\/p>\n

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Note please,\u00a0 that\u00a0 I, apostle Taveau D’Arcy\u00a0<\/strong> can teach this… without the Chat GPT AI as I know my history and authority and Bible, (all my life)however, I want to be objective. Also,\u00a0 I intentionally ask, crafted, directed, also pointed long thought out, and Bible examined “Tough Questions” to probe the universe of web, to confirm or disprove the Apostolic Many Covering, Authority, and Biased, Maligning\u00a0 “theories”<\/em>
\nSincerely, Dr T<\/em>
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QUESTIONS?<\/span> <\/strong><\/h3>\n

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PART ONE <\/span>APOSTLE PAUL AND AUTHORITY:<\/span><\/h1>\n

Divine Commission vs. Human Submission<\/span><\/h1>\n

In a world where Christian leadership<\/strong> often emphasizes strict affiliation, submission to pastors, or hierarchical authority structures, the Apostle Paul\u2019s example offers profound insight. Paul, one of the most influential figures in early Christianity, declared in Galatians 1:1-2<\/strong> that his apostleship came \u201cnot from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father.\u201d<\/strong> What does this mean for Paul\u2019s relationship to authority? Was he under anyone, and how does this speak to church leadership today?<\/span><\/p>\n

Paul\u2019s Divine Commission: Not Under Human Authority<\/span><\/h2>\n

From the outset of his ministry, Paul stressed his direct calling from God<\/strong>. In Galatians 1:1<\/strong>, he uses the Greek phrase “ouk apo anthr\u014dp\u014dn, oude dia anthr\u014dpou”<\/strong> meaning \u201cnot from men, nor through man,\u201d emphasizing his authority was divine, bypassing traditional human chains of command.<\/span><\/p>\n

Paul\u2019s background<\/strong> underscores this divine appointment.<\/strong> Once a persecutor of the church (Acts 9), Paul encountered Jesus on the road to Damascus and was called by God Himself. <\/span><\/p>\n

He did not seek approval from the original twelve apostles<\/strong> nor from Jerusalem leaders to begin his ministry. Instead, his authority came directly from Christ<\/strong>, making him a unique apostolic figure:<\/span><\/p>\n

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    Acts 9:15<\/strong> \u2013 The Lord says Paul is a \u201cchosen instrument\u201d to carry His name to the Gentiles, kings, and Israelites.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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    Galatians 1:11-12<\/strong> \u2013 Paul emphasizes that the gospel he preached was received by revelation from Jesus Christ, not taught by human teachers.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

    Respectful Recognition, Not Submission to Other Apostles<\/span><\/h2>\n

    Though Paul\u2019s authority was independent, he maintained fellowship and mutual respect with other apostles:<\/span><\/p>\n

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      Galatians 2:6-9<\/strong> records a meeting with \u201cpillars\u201d of the church \u2014 Peter, James, and John \u2014 who recognized Paul\u2019s mission and extended the \u201cright hand of fellowship.\u201d<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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      This was a recognition of equal ministry<\/strong>, not hierarchical submission.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

      Paul\u2019s stance was clear<\/strong>: while he cooperated and communicated with other church leaders,<\/strong> he was not \u201cunder\u201d their authority<\/em><\/strong> but under Christ\u2019s direct commission<\/strong>. <\/span><\/p>\n

      Reason:<\/strong> This was critical as he confronted false teachings and defended his gospel against Judaizers<\/strong> and others.<\/span><\/p>\n

      Paul\u2019s Teaching on Submission to Authority<\/span><\/h2>\n

      Paul\u2019s letters also clarify where submission is appropriate:<\/span><\/p>\n

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        Romans 13:1-7<\/strong> teaches Christians to submit to civil authorities<\/strong>, recognizing that all authority comes from God.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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        In the church context,<\/strong> Paul encouraged respect for elders and leaders but never advocated blind submission to human leaders<\/strong> over obedience to God.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

        He modeled servant leadership<\/strong> rather than authoritarian rule:<\/span><\/p>\n

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          1 Corinthians 4:14-21<\/strong> shows Paul correcting the Corinthians as a loving spiritual father, not a domineering master.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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          Philippians 2:5-8<\/strong> exhorts believers to adopt Christ\u2019s humility, emphasizing servant leadership.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

          Paul\u2019s Ministry Context: Leader in a Challenging Culture<\/span><\/h2>\n

          Paul\u2019s ministry to Ephesus<\/strong> and Asia Minor, including his work in a city famous for the worship of Diana\/Artemis (Acts 19), positioned him as a leader transforming a diverse, multi-ethnic community. He preached the gospel of freedom in Christ<\/strong> \u2014 no longer Jew or Greek, male or female (Galatians 3:28), promoting unity and equality in the body of Christ (Ephesians 4:1-6).<\/span><\/p>\n

          This radical teaching challenged both pagan culture and established religious authority, highlighting the transformational nature of the Christian community<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n

          What Can We Learn Today?<\/span><\/h2>\n

          TD Apostolic Ministry Training Points<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n

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          1. \n

            Authority in the Church Must Be Christ-Centered<\/strong><\/span>
            Paul\u2019s example reminds us that true apostolic authority is received from God, not conferred by human institutions or councils.<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            While respect and fellowship among leaders are essential, ultimate submission is to Christ alone.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

          3. \n

            Submission Does Not Mean Subjugation<\/strong><\/span>
            Respectful relationships within the church do not equate to hierarchical control or authoritarianism.<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

          4. \n

            Paul\u2019s ministry model<\/strong> shows leadership rooted in humility, service, and mutual accountability.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

          5. \n

            Leadership Should Build Unity and Freedom<\/strong><\/span>
            Paul\u2019s teaching of unity in diversity (Ephesians 4<\/strong>) and freedom in Christ (Galatians 5)<\/strong> provides a blueprint for churches today to resist legalism, favoritism, and divisive authority<\/em><\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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            Authority Must Always Be Checked by Scripture and Spirit<\/strong><\/span>
            Paul\u2019s bold stance against false teachings, despite pressure from other leaders, teaches leaders and believers to test all authority by God\u2019s word and Spirit, not merely by tradition or human dec<\/strong>ree.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

            Conclusion<\/span><\/h3>\n

            Paul\u2019s relationship with authority<\/strong> was unique and divinely ordained.<\/span><\/p>\n

            Fact:<\/strong> He was under no human authority<\/strong> but directly under Christ\u2019s commission, respected fellow apostles, submitted to civil authorities where appropriate, and led with servant humility. <\/span><\/p>\n

            Point:<\/strong> His model challenges modern Christians to reconsider how authority and submission function<\/strong> in the church, always ensuring Christ\u2019s lordship is paramount.<\/span><\/p>\n

            (TD admonishes “no devout celebrity cults” “elite tribes” “no private worship turfs” with their prone to “clubby’ division)<\/strong><\/em><\/p>\n

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            PART TWO: Paul\u2019s Unique God-Revealed Authority<\/span><\/h1>\n

            After the Twelve, His Background, and Independence from Human Confirmation<\/h3>\n

            APOSTOLIC TAVEAU\u00a0 POINTS<\/strong>
            \n1.\u00a0 Paul Came After the Selection of the Original First\u00a0 Twelve Apostles<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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              The first 12 apostles were personally handpicked and mentored by Jesus Christ<\/strong> during His earthly ministry (Matthew 10:1-4; Mark 3:13-19).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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              They had direct, ongoing teaching<\/strong> and witnessed Jesus\u2019 miracles, death, and resurrection firsthand.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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              Paul, however, came later\u2014not part of this original group<\/strong> (Acts 1:21-26 shows Matthias replaces Judas).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

              2. Paul\u2019s Background: From Persecutor to Apostle<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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                Before his calling, Paul (then Saul) was a zealous persecutor of the early church<\/strong>; he actively sought to destroy Christians (Acts 8:1-3; 9:1-2).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                His dramatic conversion on the road to Damascus (Acts 9:3-6) was a divine encounter<\/strong>\u2014Jesus Himself revealed Paul\u2019s mission and authority.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                After conversion, Paul sought to serve the church, especially in Jerusalem, but he was initially not accepted<\/strong> by the original apostles (Galatians 1:13-24).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                3. \u201cGod Revealed\u201d Authority \u2014 Not Human-Granted<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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                  Paul insists his apostleship is not from human appointment<\/strong> but directly from Christ<\/strong> (Galatians 1:1).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

                • \n

                  He famously says, \u201cI did not receive it from man, nor was I taught it, but it came through a revelation of Jesus Christ\u201d (Galatians 1:12).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

                • \n

                  This sets Paul apart from other leaders who might claim authority through human ordination or lineage.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                  4. Not Wanting or Needing Human Approval<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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                    Paul was eager to help the Jerusalem church but met skepticism and rejection (Galatians 2:1-2).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                    He even did not confer with \u201cflesh and blood\u201d<\/strong> (Galatians 1:16) \u2014 meaning he did not seek human endorsement before preaching the gospel.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                    His authority and message came straight from God\u2019s revelation and commission.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                    5. Freedom to Hear and Obey God Directly<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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                      Paul\u2019s example models what Philippians 2:12 means about \u201cworking out your own salvation with fear and trembling\u201d<\/strong>\u2014a personal, reverent responsibility before God.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                      He demonstrates that a believer\u2019s primary submission is to God\u2019s revealed will<\/strong>, not merely to human leaders or systems.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                      This is freedom grounded in accountability, not license to disobey authority, but a reminder that human authority is always secondary and derivative<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                      6. Application to Modern Church Leadership<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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                        Like Paul, many modern Christian leaders and believers may feel called or led by God directly, without formal human commissioning or approval<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                        This does not negate the value<\/strong> of church structure, but it challenges the notion that spiritual authority must always be mediated by human leaders.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                        Paul\u2019s story warns against rigid hierarchies t<\/strong>hat reject or suppress God\u2019s work simply because it does not conform to established human systems.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                        It encourages openness to Spirit-led ministry<\/strong> that might come from unexpected places or people.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                        True authority in the church flows from God\u2019s revelation and calling, validated by fruit and obedience<\/strong>, not only by titles or human endorsement.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                        7. Key Scriptures to Reflect On<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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                          Acts 9:1-19<\/strong> \u2014 Paul\u2019s conversion and calling.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                          Galatians 1:11-24<\/strong> \u2014 Paul\u2019s defense of his divine commission.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                          Galatians 2:1-2<\/strong> \u2014 Paul\u2019s interaction with Jerusalem leaders.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                          Philippians 2:12-13<\/strong> \u2014 Working out salvation reverently.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                          1 Corinthians 9:1-2<\/strong> \u2014 Paul\u2019s claim of apostleship not from men but by Christ\u2019s revelation.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                          8. Summary<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                          Paul\u2019s apostolic authority was unique and God-revealed<\/strong>, setting him apart from the original Twelve and from leaders who gain authority through human ordination alone. Despite being rejected by some church leaders, Paul faithfully followed his divine commission, emphasizing personal submission to Christ above all.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          This teaches the church today<\/strong> to balance respect for leadership with openness to God\u2019s direct work in individuals, guarding against both authoritarianism and chaos, anchoring authority in Scripture, revelation, and Christ\u2019s lordship<\/span>.<\/p>\n

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                          PART THREE PAULINE OFFICE PORTRAYALS<\/span> <\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                          (which are Dr Taveau’s offices, too)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                          Paul\u2019s Apostolic Office in Galatians 1:1-2:<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                          In Galatians 1:1-2,<\/strong> Paul writes, \u201cPaul, an apostle\u2014not from men nor through man, but through Jesus Christ and God the Father, who raised Him from the dead\u2014And all the brethren who are with me, to the churches of Galatia.\u201d<\/strong> <\/span><\/p>\n

                          Here, Paul emphasizes<\/strong> that his apostleship is not a title granted by human authority or institution<\/strong>s, but rather, it is a divine calling from Jesus Christ. This sets a profound tone about the nature of his ministry: it was not self-appointed or self-seeking,<\/strong> <\/em>but birthed out of God’s will.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          Paul\u2019s emphasis on divine<\/strong> calling over human recognition reflects his broader attitude toward his role. <\/span><\/p>\n

                          Note: He was a servant leader who did not seek the approval or praise o<\/strong>f people. <\/span><\/p>\n

                          His letter to the Galatians,<\/strong> like many of his letters, was not to defend his reputation<\/strong> but to clarify the gospel and the true authority behind it.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          Paul in Acts 17:17: Engaging in the Public Square:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                          Acts 17:17<\/strong> from the King James Version (KJV)<\/strong>:<\/span><\/p>\n

                          “Therefore disputed he in the synagogue with the Jews, and with the devout persons, and in the market daily with them that met with him.”<\/strong> \u2014 Acts 17:17 KJV<\/em><\/span><\/h4>\n

                          This verse highlights<\/strong> Paul’s public reasoning and open dialogue with both religious and non-religious audiences \u2014 in the synagogue and in the marketplace \u2014 exemplifying his role as a bold, Spirit-led apostle engaging the culture head-on.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          In Acts 17:17,<\/strong> Paul engages in public discourse in Athen<\/strong>s, an intellectual and cultural hub of the time. He goes into the synagogue and the marketplace, discussing and debating with philosophers, both Epicureans and Stoics. <\/span><\/p>\n

                          This was a significant public platform<\/strong>, and we might consider it a \u201cmega-ministry\u201d momen<\/strong>t. Yet, in Paul\u2019s mind, this was not about drawing crowds or building a personal empire. <\/span><\/p>\n

                          He was not interested in becoming a \u201ccelebrity preacher<\/strong>,\u201d but rather, he was faithful to the mission of spreading the gospel, even if it meant facing ridicule and rejection.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          Paul\u2019s behavior i<\/strong>n this setting demonstrates his willingness to interact with and challenge the cultural leaders of the time, not for personal fame, but to glorify God and bring the message of Christ to those who were lost. <\/span><\/p>\n

                          In the modern context,<\/strong> this could be compared to Christian leaders engaging with public platforms, yet Paul\u2019s humble approach underscores the difference between using influence for the gospel and using it for self-promotion.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                          Paul\u2019s Self-Perception: \u201cDung\u201d and \u201cOffscouring\u201d (Philippians 3:8):<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                          Philippians 3:8<\/strong> from the King James Version (KJV):<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                          “Yea doubtless, and I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord: for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and do count them but dung, that I may win Christ,”<\/strong><\/span>
                          \u2014 Philippians 3:8 KJV<\/em><\/span><\/h3>\n

                          This verse reflects Paul’s total surrender of status, reputation, and worldly gain for the surpassing value of knowing Christ.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          Despite the significance of his ministry,<\/strong> Paul\u2019s self-view was far from the image of a celebrity or public figure that we might associate with modern mega-ministers. In Philippians 3:8,<\/strong> Paul writes, \u201cYet indeed I also count all things loss for the excellence of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord, for whom I have suffered the loss of all things, and count them as rubbish, that I may gain Christ.\u201d <\/span><\/p>\n

                          The word “rubbish” her<\/strong>e is often translated as “dung” or “offscouring,”<\/strong> which implies that Paul considered anything\u2014whether achievements, accolades, or worldly recognition\u2014as worthless compared to knowing Christ.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          This starkly contrast<\/strong>s with the modern Christian celebrity culture<\/em><\/strong> that often seeks validation through recognition and popularity. While many modern leaders may see their fame as a sign of success, Paul viewed everything in light of eternity and the supreme value of knowing Christ. His humility and deep sense of his own unworthiness before God led him to reject any notion of glory or fame in the earthly sense.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          Paul\u2019s self-image<\/strong> was rooted in his awareness of his unworthiness and his calling to serve Christ, even to the point of suffering. His apostolic authority did not come from his charisma, his public ministry, or his ability to attract crowds, but from God\u2019s calling and the grace extended to him.<\/span><\/p>\n

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                          PART FOUR: PAUL IN APOSTOLIC HISTORY VS NOW IN MEDIA TIMES<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                          Modern Day: How We View Paul Now.. Through the Lens of Media:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                          Today, Paul\u2019s life and ministry<\/strong> are often presented through the lens of media and historical accounts, sometimes elevating him to the status of a \u201cChristian hero\u201d or a “mega-ministry” figur<\/strong>e. His writings have shaped much of Christian doctrine, and his missionary work is celebrated across denominations. Modern media outlets, churches,<\/strong> and even books present Paul as a towering figure, often focusing on his accomplishments and his vast influence on the spread of Christianity.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          However, when we view Paul t<\/strong>hrough the eyes of TV and media, we risk distorting the very heart of his ministry. Modern representations of Paul often emphasize his authority, his theological insights, and his role as a foundational leader in the Church, which are all valid and important aspects of his legacy.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          *** But if we do not remember Paul\u2019s own self-awareness of his unworthiness, we miss the profound humility that characterized his life and ministry.<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                          Unlike today\u2019s Christian media culture,<\/strong> which sometimes elevates ministers to celebrity status, Paul\u2019s perspective was grounded in servanthood. <\/span><\/p>\n

                          His success, in his eyes, was not in how many people followed him<\/strong><\/em> or how many churches he planted, but in his obedience to Christ and his willingness to suffer for the sake of the gospel.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          Conclusion:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                          The apostle Paul\u2019s view of himself<\/strong>, as expressed in his letters and actions, stands in stark contrast to the modern view of Christian leadership through the lens of media and celebrity culture. While Paul\u2019s influence was immense, his view of ministry was not about building a personal brand or securing a legacy. Instead, he viewed his calling as an apostle with humility, constantly pointing to Christ as the source of his authority and purpose.<\/span><\/p>\n

                          In our modern context, a<\/strong>s Christian leaders, we must guard against the temptation to embrace a celebrity mindset, remembering that true leadership in the kingdom of God is rooted in servanthood, humility, and a willingness to suffer for the sake of Christ. As we engage with media, platforms, and public spaces, may we follow Paul\u2019s example of pointing to Christ rather than to ourselves, knowing that any recognition we receive is ultimately a gift from God, to be used for His glory, not our own.<\/span><\/p>\n

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                          PART FIVE: AND WHO WAS PAUL “UNDER?”<\/span>
                          \nReview:<\/span><\/h1>\n

                          Theology, First-Century Church History, and Contemporary Application<\/h3>\n

                          1. Paul\u2019s Statement on Authority and Submission<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                          Paul says in Galatians 1:1<\/strong> that he was \u201cnot sent from men nor by a man\u201d<\/strong>, implying he was not under human authority as an apostle. Yet, Paul acknowledges submission in other ways:<\/span><\/p>\n

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                            He recognized the authority of Christ alone<\/strong> (Acts 9:4-6; 1 Corinthians 11:1).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                            He respected the Jerusalem apostles as brothers<\/em> but did not submit to them as his human superiors (Galatians 2:6-9).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                            He practiced accountability to the gospel and churches<\/strong> but not authoritarian control by men.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                            2. Theological Meaning of \u201cBeing Under\u201d<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                            a) Divine vs. Human Authority<\/strong><\/h3>\n
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                              Paul\u2019s ultimate authority<\/em> was Christ. His apostolic commission came directly from the resurrected Lord (Galatians 1:12).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                              Being \u201cunder\u201d authority means different things:<\/span><\/p>\n

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                                Under God\u2019s authority<\/strong>: Submission to Christ as Head of the Church.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                Under human authority<\/strong>: Submission to local pastors or apostles, which Paul does not<\/strong> affirm as a source of his commissioning or gospel message.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                b) Submission vs. Servanthood<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                  Paul models servant leadership<\/strong> (Philippians 2:5-8), not authoritarian submission.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                  Submission is biblical but always under Christ\u2019s lordship and for edification, not for control or domination<\/strong> (Ephesians 5:21).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                  3. Historical First-Century Church Context<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                                  a) Early Church Structure Was Fluid<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                    The New Testament church was mostly house churches<\/strong> with elders, overseers (bishops), and deacons (Acts 14:23; Titus 1:5).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                    Leadership was relational, spiritual, and functional, not hierarchical bureaucracy.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                    Apostles like Paul and Peter functioned as itinerant messengers with divine authority, not as controlling bosses over local congregations.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                    b) Paul\u2019s Relationship to Jerusalem Apostles<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                      At the Jerusalem Council (Acts 15), Paul and Barnabas consulted apostles like James but were not under<\/em> them in a hierarchical sense (Galatians 2:6-9).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                      The early church recognized apostolic equality<\/strong> rather than a chain of command.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                      c) Submission Was Communal, Not Top-Down<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                        Paul exhorts mutual submission (Ephesians 5:21) and elders to shepherd willingly, not as lords over the flock (1 Peter 5:2-3).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                        No biblical evidence Paul submitted to any governing apostle or pastor as a controlling authority.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                        4. Theological Implications for Church Leadership Today<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                                        a) Submission Is to Christ First and Foremost<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                          Christians and leaders submit ultimately to Christ, the Head of the Church (Colossians 1:18).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                          Human leaders function as servants and stewards<\/strong> under Christ, not as overlords (Mark 10:42-45).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                          b) Authority Is Gifted, Not Claimed by Hierarchy<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                            Spiritual authority flows from gifts given by Christ<\/strong> (Ephesians 4:11-13).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                            Human structures should facilitate growth, unity, and accountability\u2014not control or coercion.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                            c) Warning Against Authoritarianism<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                              Rigid demands for submission to a local pastor or \u201cgoverning apostle\u201d can easily lead to abuse of power<\/strong>, control, and legalism.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                              Paul\u2019s example teaches discernment<\/strong>: leaders should be tested by Scripture, fruit, and humility (1 Timothy 3; Titus 1).<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                              d) Accountability Without Domination<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                                Healthy leadership includes accountability but must preserve freedom in Christ.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                Paul\u2019s independence in Galatians models balance<\/strong> between divine commission and relational accountabil<\/span>ity.<\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                                5. Summary: Who Was Paul Under?<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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                                                Aspect<\/th>\nPaul\u2019s Position<\/th>\nModern Application<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
                                                Authority Source<\/td>\nChrist directly, not human leaders<\/td>\nLeaders\u2019 authority is ultimately from God, not human hierarchy<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                                                Submission<\/td>\nTo Christ as Head; mutual respect with other apostles<\/td>\nSubmission to leaders is under Christ, not blind obedience<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                                                Leadership Style<\/td>\nServant leadership, not authoritarian control<\/td>\nLeaders must serve, not dominate<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                                                Relationship to Church<\/td>\nAccountable to churches, not controlled by them<\/td>\nLeaders and members should foster accountability, not control<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                                                Apostolic Equality<\/td>\nApostles were brothers, not bosses<\/td>\nChurch governance should avoid rigid hierarchies<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n

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                                                PART SIX: HIS EGO AND HUMANITY<\/span><\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                                                Taveau says,\u00a0 Let\u2019s look at how \u201cHe who compares himself with another is not wise\u201d<\/strong> and Paul\u2019s determination to know \u201cChrist and Him crucified\u201d<\/strong> directly confront and dismantle the modern ministry culture of competition<\/strong>, wannabeism<\/strong>, celebrity chasing<\/strong>, and FOMO<\/strong>.<\/span><\/p>\n

                                                1. “He who compares himself…” \u2014 2 Corinthians 10:12 (KJV)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                                                \u201cFor we dare not make ourselves of the number, or compare ourselves with some that commend themselves: but they measuring themselves by themselves, and comparing themselves among themselves, are not wise.\u201d<\/strong><\/span>
                                                \u2014 2 Corinthians 10:12, KJV<\/em><\/span><\/h4>\n

                                                Meaning in Context:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                                                Paul is confronting spiritual elitism<\/strong> and the measuring of one\u2019s success by human standards<\/strong> rather than by God’s call and grace.<\/span><\/p>\n

                                                Applies To:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                                  Ministry competition<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                  \u201cKeeping up with the Joneses\u201d spirit<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                  Measuring ministry \u201cfruit\u201d by size, fame, followers<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                                  Greek Key Words:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                                    Sugkrinontes<\/em> (\u03c3\u03c5\u03b3\u03ba\u03c1\u03af\u03bd\u03bf\u03bd\u03c4\u03b5\u03c2) \u2013 comparing, contrasting<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                    Asunetoi<\/em> (\u1f00\u03c3\u03cd\u03bd\u03b5\u03c4\u03bf\u03b9) \u2013 without understanding, foolish<\/strong>, lacking spiritual discernment<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                                    This rebukes the performance mindset<\/strong>: “If they have a conference, we must.” “If they dress that way, we will too.”<\/span>
                                                    Wisdom is lost<\/strong> when we seek ministry identity through comparison<\/strong>, not calling<\/span><\/p>\n

                                                    2. \u201cI determined not to know any thing among you\u2026\u201d \u2014 1 Corinthians 2:2 (KJV)<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n

                                                    \u201cFor I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.\u201d<\/strong><\/span>
                                                    \u2014 1 Corinthians 2:2, KJV<\/em><\/span><\/h4>\n

                                                    Paul’s Approach:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                                      Intentional disregard for personal trivia, status, or reputation<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                      Focused solely on Christ-centered ministry<\/strong>, not the \u201cbrand\u201d of Paul<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                                      In Contrast To:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                                        Gossip-based discernmen<\/strong>t<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                        Competitive \u201cname-dropping\u201d<\/strong> spirituality<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                        FOMO<\/strong> , rivalry, even against the local and or\u00a0 \u201cbig-name\u201d speaker. and mighty mega ministries<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                                        Greek Key Words:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                                          Ekrina<\/em> (\u1f14\u03ba\u03c1\u03b9\u03bd\u03b1) \u2013 I resolved, I judged as best<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                          I\u0113soun Christon kai touton estaur\u014dmenon<\/em> \u2013 Jesus Christ and Him crucified<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

                                                          Apostolic Leadership Message:<\/strong><\/span><\/h3>\n

                                                          Real apostles and leaders are not brand chasers<\/strong>, they are Christ crucified bearers<\/strong>\u2014rejecting showmanship and self-promotion.<\/span><\/p>\n

                                                          3. Connecting These to Modern Ministry Trends:<\/strong><\/span><\/h2>\n
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                                                          Trend<\/strong><\/span><\/th>\nRebuked by Scripture<\/strong><\/span><\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n
                                                          Comparison culture<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n2 Cor. 10:12<\/em> \u2014 It’s unwise, leads to vanity and pride<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                                                          Wannabeism \/ Fame-seeking<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n1 Cor. 2:2<\/em> \u2014 True leaders die to self, live to preach Christ alone<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                                                          FOMO & image-based leadership<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nLuke 14:11<\/em> \u2014 \u201cHe that exalteth himself shall be abased…\u201d<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                                                          Ministry cliques \/ exclusion<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\nJames 2:1<\/em> \u2014 No respecter of persons in Christ<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n
                                                          \u201cElite\u201d Mega-systems<\/strong><\/span><\/td>\n1 Cor. 1:27-29<\/em> \u2014 God chooses the weak to confound the mighty<\/span><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n

                                                          Pauline Perspective Super Star? Or Abiding Servant?
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                                                          His Apostolic Office in Galatians 1:1-2 and Acts 17:17 vs. Modern Media Presentation<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n

                                                          We can conclude:<\/strong><\/span>
                                                          \nThe apostle Paul was one of the most influential figures in the early Christian church,<\/strong> but his view of himself was radically different from the modern concept of a \u201cmega ministry\u201d leader. In Galatians 1:1-2, Paul introduces himself as an apostle, not by human appointment, but by the will of God. In Acts 17:17, we see him engaging in the public square, debating in the marketplaces of Athens, which was a very public and influential platform. <\/span><\/p>\n

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                                                          • Despite this, Paul’s self-perception w<\/strong>as far from one of self-promotion, fame, or celebrity. Rather, he viewed himself in the most humble terms, referring to himself as “dung” or “offscouring” (Philippians 3:8), demonstrating the contrast between his apostolic humility and the way modern media might depict a well-known Christian leader.<\/strong><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n
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                                                            POINT:<\/strong> Yes, the Bible says that Paul came in weakness<\/strong>, and there’s also mention of Christ not being physically impressive<\/strong>. Here\u2019s a breakdown for both:<\/span><\/p>\n

                                                            Paul came in weakness<\/strong>:<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                                              1 Corinthians 2:3 (KJV)<\/strong> \u2013<\/span>
                                                              “And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.”<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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                                                                Paul is describing his physical and emotional state when he first came to Corinth to preach. He emphasizes reliance on God’s power, not eloquence or human strength.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                                2 Corinthians 10:10 (KJV)<\/strong> \u2013<\/span>
                                                                “For his letters, say they, are weighty and powerful; but his bodily presence is weak, and his speech contemptible.”<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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                                                                  Paul quotes his critics who said he was unimpressive in person and didn\u2019t speak well.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n

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                                                                  Galatians 4:13-14 (KJV)<\/strong> \u2013<\/span>
                                                                  “Ye know how through infirmity of the flesh I preached the gospel unto you at the first. And my temptation which was in my flesh ye despised not…”<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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                                                                    He may be referring to an illness or physical weakness that made his appearance unappealing, yet the Galatians still received him.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

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                                                                      2 Corinthians 13:4 (KJV)<\/strong> \u2013<\/span>
                                                                      “For though he was crucified through weakness, yet he liveth by the power of God.”<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n

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                                                                        Paul emphasizes Christ\u2019s apparent weakness in crucifixion, contrasting it with resurrection power.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<\/li>\n<\/ol>\n

                                                                        Summary:<\/span><\/h3>\n
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                                                                          Paul<\/strong> admits to coming in weakness<\/em>, fear<\/em>, and with a lack of physical impressiveness<\/em>.<\/span><\/p>\n<\/li>\n

                                                                        • NOTE: For the historical proof regarding the Apostle Paul anti women leader thing, see prior history of the patriarchy series and many more (submission hot\u00a0 real topics) on this Ministry AI and I site.<\/span><\/li>\n
                                                                        • Submitted to the Christian ministry body as Submitted Selah, not hardcore demanding, Bible beat down dogma<\/em><\/span><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n

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